How mad am I? If I had Brian Ross of ABC and his sources here, I'd go for the throat. If I had John Aravosis here, I'd want to turn him into a eunuch. Nancy Pelosi, I'd feed her to the dogs. I am livid.
The following post, quoted in entirety, is what has me steaming hot with anger. And, if I hear one more media person or one more Democrat tell me they care about the young men of this story or our children, I think I'll puke. They don't give a flying f**k! They are assholes with no conscience. The bitch Pelosi should be tarred and feathered. I want all their heads on a platter.
Ignorant political sluts all of them.
We have a family in Louisiana who took steps to stop a Congressman from writing to their 17 year old son, who happens to be a former page. After receiving a couple of innocuous emails that seemed to border on too friendly to alert parents, they asked their own Rep. Alexander to speak to Mr. Foley and ask him not to correspond with their son. They wanted this handled privately and confidentially. They did not want to pursue any further action and when Alexander took steps to inform Foley to stop, Foley did stop. Should have been the end of the story. But, no, someone decided to turn this story into a circus, a chance to publicly out and humiliate Foley, and the young man or his family's wishes be damned in the process. So here we are today. The young man is being hounded with taunts that he is gay, when he isn't. But, worse, he is getting death threats. Yes, you read that right. DEATH THREATS!!!!!! How is that for caring about kids? Sucks doesn't it? And having raised a son, I can assure you that being accused falsely at 17 of being gay probably makes the kid wish he were dead. Did Foley scar this young man for life? No he did not. Has the media and their Dem enablers scarred this boy for life? You bet they have. The ignorant low life bastards.
Here is the post with the details, tell me it doesn't piss you off as much as it does me. If it doesn't, then you are sick too.
Ex Page In Louisiana Getting Death Threats
The Pondering American ^ | Oct 2 2006 | ponderingamerican
Posted on 10/03/2006 10:47:27 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
Well this is wonderful isn't it. The local Newspaper reports
Rep. Rodney Alexander said a former male House page from Monroe has received threats since reports surfaced Friday that former Congressman Mark Foley sent him inappropriate e-mails.
"This teenager and his family have gone through hell," Alexander, R-Monroe, said Monday. "It's just not fair that they got caught up in this and became casualties. His mother is just broken up by it. Naturally, she's concerned about her child." Foley, R-Fla., resigned on Friday after reports were published about the e-mails connected to the Monroe teenager, who's now 17. Though the e-mails to the Monroe page weren't sexually explicit, it was later revealed that Foley did send sexually explicit e-mails to other pages as early as 2003. Neither the Monroe teenager nor his family responded to interview requests from The News-Star, but Alexander said he talked to the teenager's mother, as well as the FBI, on Monday. Alexander wouldn't say what type of threats the teenager was receiving or the source of the threats. Alexander twice reported the e-mails from Foley to the House leadership, including Speaker Dennis Hastert, which Hastert and others confirmed, as well as to the boy's parents. "My first job was protecting the innocence of that young man and his family," Alexander said. "When I informed the family, they said they were aware of the situation and told me that they weren't going to pursue it because of the harm that it could do to their son." In the e-mails, Foley asked the page how he was doing after Hurricane Katrina and what he wanted for his birthday. The congressman also asked the boy to send a photo of himself. Though not expressly sexual, Alexander said the e-mails "made me feel uneasy. It wasn't normal for a 45-year-old man to be sending those e-mails to a 16-year-old, which is why I informed the House leadership." "The young man clearly felt that the e-mails were creepy, which is why he notified our office." In an e-mail to an Alexander staffer, the page called Foley's e-mails "sick" 13 times. Alexander said that he believes he took appropriate action by informing the House leadership and the boy's parents about the e-mails, but wouldn't pass judgment on the House leadership's actions since then. "If they were only acting on what we talked about ... I just don't know," Alexander said. "I knew that I did what I felt like we needed to do." Hastert said he didn't pursue the matter at the parents' request, which Alexander confirmed, but Hastert also said he never saw the contents of the e-mails. "Nobody ever asked me to see the e-mails," Alexander said.
Alexander said he would have done more if he had known about the explicit e-mails sent to other pages two years earlier. "We knew nothing about the instant messages," Alexander said. "That blew my mind."
Alexander did say that any member of Congress who did know about the explicit instant messages sent in 2003 and didn't take action "should be removed. The question that needs to be answered is who had possession of those instant messages for two or three years and didn't do anything about them?"
Louisiana's 5th District congressman said he hasn't spoken to any member of House leadership since the story broke on Friday.
Alexander wouldn't say whether or not he felt like the leadership was disappointed that he came forward with the information a month before congressional elections that could affect the balance of the House.
"I didn't think as much about what it would do to Congress as to what it might do to the young man and his family," Alexander said. "This needed to be flushed out." link-
A few thoughts on this. As I stated earlier what is being done to this young man is far worse than anything Rep Foley ever did to him. To keep saying that Foley is the main culprit currently causing pages distress is at this point ludricous.
As the American Thinker stated yesterday,"The timing of the two-step release is critical to the political efficaciousness of the operation. The public is being led to conflate the different sets of correspondence (mildly inappropriate emails versus salacious IM messages), leading most people to believe the sexually explicit stuff was what Hastert had seen."
Well it is working. As I also stated one can go to the major political forums and the state wide ones too and see the confusion bearing full fruit. Most people believe this poor North Louisiana kid is not only gay but engaged in all this salacious im'ing and some think he was part of some plot. All because the media wants to confuse his emails with the im's that occured even before he was on the scene in DC.
The media though is not the only culprit. As the American Thinker laid out so well yesterday the true culprits in this matter are extremist democrats engaging in some very dirty pool. At least I hope those Dems are renegades because if they are establishment it shows us how low they have fallen.
However I am sad to say that the Dems and the radical gay elements are not the only sick individuals in this little affair. Certain conservatives in the party are misrepresenting the facts also or at least blurrying them in order to obtain a power grab. I can't come to any other conclusion really. The Washington Times instead of commending Hasert for asking for a Justice Dept investigation is asking for his resignation. Human Events got into the act by blurring the facts for their own agenda. Even WorldnetDaily decided to take time from warning us how George Bush has a secret plot to form an North American Union and gave us the headline of GOP unworthy of governing. Richard Viguree was on CNN yesterday to talk about the Page scandal but all it was a rant against the GOP leadership. Well forgive me if I don't buy all this poppycock that is being done under the guise of morality. This is basically the crowd that squacks like deranged parrot demanding "conservative purity test" and proclaims every Republican that doesn't roll over like a dog to their every utterance is a RINO. We need less Republicans on TV trying to unseat Hasert and more asking for the facts. Perhaps we just need less of them on TV period and let the Justice Dept investigation take its course.
The majority of conservatives are not doing this and we that should be noted. However they don't make good TV for the 24/7 News networks and the radio shows. That being said Kudos to Rep Rodney Alexander who has and is acting in a honorable and correct way. Rodney used to be a good ole fashion conservative Piney Hills Louisiana Democrat. He got elected to DC and after being told by Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi he had no leeway to vote his principles told her to stuff it and ran as a Republican. He won and will easily win reelection this year.
In the end lets remember despite the ambitions of a few conservatives, the ones that are using this scandal in a unethical way are the Democrats. I think this literally from the Democrat playbook says it best.
(1). Pay no heed to the distinction between the e-mails and IMs. There's no evidence (yet) that any Republican leaders knew about Foley's cybersex IMs. There's plenty of evidence that they knew how uncomfortable the "overly friendly" e-mails made at least one page. So the Dems will press the GOP on what they knew about the former and will constantly, in their press releases, refer to the "GOP's knowledge of the sexually explicit e-mails."
2. Enlarge the wedge between House leaders. The tension this weekend between Speaker Dennis Hastert and NRCC chair Tom Reynolds was thick. Dems want it to suffocate the party and throw the Republicans even further off their game.
At the end lets us return to that poor little ole kid from North Louisiana. He should be dating girls and going to Friday night football games. Not getting death threats. The above Dem playbook talking points is not helping matters.
And if you are compelled to leave a comment telling me what a sleaze pedophile Foley is, save your energy. I am not buying it. There is nothing untoward in the original emails and the IMs, although salacious and not my cup of tea with a couple of gay guys getting off with each other, they are private and should remain private. Oh, but the IM partner is a child. Yeah right! Some child. Give me a break. 52 messages of a willing participant who not only sounds willing but just as in to the conversation as Foley. That is 52 messages. Where is the victim? You don't have to accept an incoming IM. You can end one at at any time. This is AOL instant messaging and it is very easy to block any incoming screen name. In other words, to participate, you have to take an active role and continue or end the session. And AOL instant messaging does not auto log IMs, you have to SAVE the conversation manually.
Like I said, 52 willingly participated in messages does not a victim make.
Oh and one more point. The media is splashing around that Foley "interupted" a House vote in order to have his sex tryst. This is garbage. A Member doesn't interupt a vote. When the bell rings, you have about 20 minutes to get to the floor of the House and record your vote. Sometimes there are multiple votes that follow one after another, but there will always be at least twenty to thirty minutes of down time between votes. The vote is called, the Member votes, the Members return to whatever they were doing and wait for the next bell when they repeat the process. If there is debate allowed before a vote, sometimes the process can go on for hours before the actual vote is called. Members can come to the floor and leave several times over the course of an evening.
Sara, aren't those death threats coming from gay-hating Republicans pissed that this kid made a stink about Foley?
Posted by: blank | 04 October 2006 at 10:37 AM
I don't know who is making the threats. It could be that sick group out of Kansas that is going to show up and protest the Amish children's funerals because they are mad at Ed Rendell's stance on gays. It doesn't matter who is making the threats. If idiot do-gooders weren't out parroting this story and claiming it is to protect our children, this young man's idenity would still be confidential, just as the parent's requested. There is no excuse for what has happened here. Every Republican should be infuriated, no matter how they feel about gay rights or gay activity. This was a parental rights issue and family rights issue. The Dems don't give a damn about parental rights. Remember in their world it takes a village to raise a child and they think turning children over to minimum wage day care workers is preferable to having a Mother stay at home and take care of her children.
This needs to be laid at the Media and Pelosi's doorstep.
Posted by: Pal2Pal (Sara) | 04 October 2006 at 10:50 AM
How very Republican of you, and how perfectly consistent with the talking points. When you're called on how the death threats are most likely being created by the very homophobia and hatred that was Foley's excuse version 3.0 (molested as a child and "Foley wants you to know he's a gay man"), you claim you don't know who is making the threats.
You may not, and you probably don't want to. Because to try and think it through, you might discover just why this is so problematic. Fact is, these kids even at 15 are the best and the brightest. They're political operatives just as you say they are. And they're not going to be taken in by Foley, especially after they've been specifically warned about him.
Maybe the Druge story (Foley excuse version 5.0) is correct. and its just a prank. How does a prank like this start? Maybe because everybody connected to the Republican establishment could predict precisely how Foley would respond to titillating messages? And then they all sat around and laughed when he did just what they expected.
Actually, I hope so, because while that's extremely meanspirited of the teenagers (teens can be that way) it would tell us the only surprise to the Republican power structure was it wasn't their little secret any more.
The other possibility is, of course, that Jordan Edmund is a closeted homosexual who also has the misfortune to be an extremely conservative republican and knows what kind of hell he is in for. The same kind of hell that Foley lived with, which would actually create a bond between them.
What a Hobson's choice. Either Edmunds a straight boy who, with his buddies, get off on teasing Foley because he's such an open secret he's an easy foil, or its just one more lie the GOP tries as it flounders with its base.
This isn't about the media and Pelosi; they were cut out of the process for 3 to 5 years whilst Foley apparantly texted his tits off. This is all about the republicans and the way they define morality.
Posted by: PBCliberal | 05 October 2006 at 03:18 PM